Friday, July 13, 2012

Sam Harris v. Francis Collins


    So far in our review of Sam Harris' book The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values, we have seen Dr. Harris attempt to build an objective standard of morality on the basis of science. In the end what he had to offer was a kind of undated version of the utilitarianism of John Stuart Mill, but he gave us very few specifically scientific reasons for his conclusions.
    We also saw him wrestle with the problem of fee will v. determinism, and was not entirely successful here either. He began by denying the idea of free will, but then tried to argue that it is still possible to think rationally. We have motives for what we think – motives that are in our emotions, but we are still rational beings.
    In light of this Dr. Harris' treatment of Francis Collins is nothing less than deplorable. Dr. Collins is the Director of the National Institutes of Health, an evangelical Christian, and the author of the book The Language of God (Free Press, 2006). Dr. Harris says that "to read it [i.e., Collins' book] is to witness nothing less than intellectual suicide" (Harris, p. 160). In The Language of God Dr. Collins recounts, among other things, his religious conversion. He had been reading C.S. Lewis when he was struck by a passage in which Lewis said that given the claims that Jesus had made for Himself, either the claims were true or else Jesus was either a fraud or a lunatic. It is not possible to accept Him as a "great moral teacher" and yet think that He was wrong about who He said He was.
    Collins had felt the force of the argument, but the decisive moment came when he was hiking in the Cascade Mountains, and "the majesty and beauty of God's creation overwhelmed my resistance. As I rounded a corner and saw a beautiful and unexpected frozen waterfall, hundreds of feet high, I knew the search was over. The next morning I knelt in the dewy grass as the sun rose and surrendered to Jesus Christ" (quoted in Harris, p. 163).     
    And what is Dr. Harris' reaction to this account? "This is self-deception at full gallop. It is simply astounding that this passage was written by a scientist with the intent of demonstrating the compatibility of faith and reason" (Ibid.).
    Self-deception at a full gallop? Wait a minute here. What exactly happened to Francis Collins?
    According to Dr. Collins' own account of his conversion, the book of Lewis' that he had been reading was Mere Christianity. Dr. Collins says that he was especially impressed by a section entitled "Right and Wrong as a Clue to the Meaning of the Universe" (Collins, p. 22). Dr. Collins says ". . . I realized that all of my own constructs against the plausibility of faith were those of a schoolboy . . . Lewis seemed to know all of my objections, sometimes even before I had quite formulated them. He invariably addressed them within a page or two. When I learned subsequently that Lewis himself had been an atheist, who had set out to disprove faith on the basis of logical argument, I recognized how he could be so insightful about my path. It had been his path as well." (Ibid., p.21).
    Dr. Collins, however, did not convert right away. He continued to struggle. Why? "My desire to draw close to God was blocked by my own pride and sinfulness, which in turn was an inevitable consequence of my own selfish desire to be in control. Faithfulness to God required a kind of death to self-will, in order to be reborn as a new creation" (Ibid., p. 222).
    In other words, Dr. Collins' rational self thought that Lewis' arguments made sense. Dr. Harris himself gives the reasons that Dr. Collins cites as the basis for his faith: "the Big Bang, the fine-tuning of Nature's constants, the emergence of complex life, and the effectiveness of mathematics, as well as our moral intuitions" (Harris, pp. 165-166). In other words, while struck by a subjective experience, Dr. Collins still had a rational basis for belief. What the experience did was to break down his resistance to the truth. This is very far from being "an intellectual suicide."
    Dr. Harris says that there are "alternate (and far more plausible) accounts of these phenomena" (the ones cited by Collins in Harris, p. 166). We might wonder what "alternate" and "far more plausible" account there can be for such things as the effectiveness of mathematics, but he does not elaborate. We suspect that it comes down to a matter of perception. Dr. Collins' experience in the Cascade Mountains enabled him to see things in a new light. And what he was seeing was very real and not at all imaginary. It is doubtful that the "alternate" explanations, if they do in fact exist, are "far more plausible."
    What is especially unfortunate about Dr. Harris' strictures on Dr. Collins' conversion experience is that what Dr. Collins described is, for the most part, what Dr. Harris had just said in the preceding chapter of his book is the way all people think, presumably Dr. Harris himself included! We all have motives for what we think, but that does not prevent us from thinking rationally. Dr. Collins described what had happened to him on an emotional level. He also gave us his rational reasons for faith. Why cannot Dr. Harris see what Dr. Collins sees? The answer: his motives are different.
    Frankly, in light of what Dr. Harris had said about motives and beliefs in the earlier chapters of his book, we cannot see how he can condemn Dr. Collins for having the very same thought processes that Dr. Harris himself had described.

7 comments:

  1. So busy are you arguing with Harris at every angle of every point, you fail to understand his argument repeatedly. This is a comprehension problem, where you warmly accept every point of every believer's argument as parts of an entirety but fail to approach contrary arguments in the same fashion. If you dismantle Collins' complete argument piece by piece you will clearly see why Harris calls it intellectual suicide. It is borne out by the absolute failure of his site (Collins) BioLogos to accommodate evolution with creationism, genetics with Genesis, and science with religion. Collins success rests entirely within his scientific endeavors devoid of christian superstition and divine 'revelations'. His religious beliefs add not one single bit of value to human knowledge and his rambling explanation of his evangelical conversion an embarrassment to his mental acuity. This is what Harris is pointing out.

    I also note you have no clue what Harris means by his determinism, so befuddled are you with assuming it means Collins had no say in his conversion. The lights seem to be on but nobody's home.

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  2. When I learned subsequently that Lewis himself had been an atheist, who had set out to disprove faith on the basis of logical argument, I recognized how he could be so insightful about my path. It had been his path as well.

    Yeah, the bit about Lewis himself having been an atheist...um...no.
    There's nothing to go on.
    Lewis "the atheist" is MIA.
    Lewis "the Anglican remembering what a big, bad atheist he was" is all that we have.

    Besides, Lewis was not even a "real christian".
    He was raised a Catholic and became C of E. Neither denominations are real Christian churches. Right, Bob?

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  3. (correction) Church of Ireland-Not Catholic.

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  4. Lewis describes his own spiritual journey in "Surprised by Joy," and yes, at one point he really was an atheist.

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  5. Lewis describes his own spiritual journey in "Surprised by Joy," and yes, at one point he really was an atheist.

    Bob, I need you to focus for a moment.
    When Lewis wrote "Surprised by Joy" was he an atheist? Yes or no?
    How do you know Lewis was ever actually an atheist?

    (No, focus! Actually read what I wrote)

    Now re-read what I wrote before...

    Yeah, the bit about Lewis himself having been an atheist...um...no.
    There's nothing to go on.
    Lewis "the atheist" is MIA.
    Lewis "the Anglican remembering what a big, bad atheist he was" is all that we have.

    Lewis didn't become a Christian. He only joined the Anglican Church. As we all know, they are not "real Christians", right Bob?

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  6. When Lewis wrote "Surprised by Joy" he was obviously a Christian. To hear him tell his own story, he was educated in a British public school (using the term in its British, and not American, sense)and gradually shed the nominal Christianity of his youth as he got older. After serving in the army in WWI he settled down to life at Oxford University and pretty exhibited the intellectual outlook of the day. The New Psychology was all the rage. He discusses several different reasons for his earlier atheism and his subsequent belief, but he makes this comment about his atheism: "But, of course,what mattered most of all was my deep-seated hatred of authority, my monstrous individualism, my lawlessness. No word in my vocabulary expressed deeper hatred than the word 'Interference.' But Christianity placed at the center what then seemed to me a transcendental Interferer." (Harcourt, Brace & World, 1955, p. 172).

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  7. When Lewis wrote "Surprised by Joy" he was obviously a Christian.

    No, he was an Anglican. You don't recognize them as real Christians.

    Lewis did not write "Surprised by Joy" as an atheist. He wrote it as someone that called themselves a Christian.
    There is no evidence that Lewis was an atheist.
    All we have is Lewis "the Anglican remembering what a big, bad atheist he was."
    Look through anything he ever wrote. Look through all of it.

    There's nothing by him as an atheist. Lewis was no Christopher Hitchens.

    "But, of course,what mattered most of all....

    This is a good example.
    Can you imagine any atheist writing..." "But, of course,what matters most of all is my deep-seated hatred of authority, my monstrous individualism, my lawlessness. No word in my vocabulary expresses deeper hatred than the word 'Interference.'"?

    It's purple prose. Real, live atheists don't say that in the normal world. Nor do they say that they "are very angry with God for not existing".

    It's a silly thing to say.
    An atheist is someone who does not accept claims for the existence of a god. It's really easy to understand.
    There's nothing to get "angry" about.
    Atheists don't get angry with Thor for not existing.
    Neither do you.

    However, certain Christians love to talk about what a terrible sinner they were before they were saved. That's a long-standing tradition.
    In fact, certain Christians like to...(gasp)...lie about how terrible a sinner they were before they were saved because it sounds much more dramatic or something.

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