Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Christianity and Islam


   
The Sacrifice of Isaac. (According to Islamic tradition, it was Ishmael who was nearly sacrificed)
  
In our last blog post we discussed the difference in attitude between Christianity and Islam toward violence. But there is a more profound difference the two religions, one that strikes right at the very essence of religion itself, and that is in the nature of our relationship with God.

    There are similarities between the two religions, of course. Both are monotheistic: they both believe that there is only one God Who is the Maker of heaven and earth. But what makes Christianity unique and distinctive is its belief in a Savior – a divine-human being who came into the world and died on a cross to save us from our sins. This notion Islam utterly rejects.
    "O People of the Book! / Commit no excesses / In your religion: nor say / Of Allah aught but the truth. / The Messiah Jesus son of Mary, / And a Spirit proceeding / From Him: so believe / In Allah and His Messengers. / Say not 'Trinity': desist" (Quran 4:171). To a devout Muslim to say that God is three-in-one is thinly disguised polytheism, and is blasphemy.
    Does it make a difference? Yes! For a Christian the idea of a Savior is crucial.
    Both Christianity and Islam believe that God is the sovereign Ruler of the universe and is just. Both religions teach that there will be a Last Judgment in which God will reward good and punish evil. But what Islam fails to reckon with is the extent and depth of human depravity. It is, of course, obvious that the world is full of evil – everything from marital spats to world wars. We are confronted with dishonesty and discord on a daily basis. But what is the cause of all this dysfunction? The Bible offers a striking diagnosis: the root problem is human nature. "The heart is deceitful above all things, / And desperately wicked; / Who can know it?" (Jer. 17:9; NKJV). And then the prophet adds this terrifying prospect: "I, the Lord, search the heart, / I test the mind, / Even to give every man according to his ways, / According to the fruit of his doings" (v. 10). What makes the judgment of God different from that of a human court is that God is able to examine our inward motives. And no matter what pretense we can maintain before our fellow human beings, God knows the real truth about who we are, and how we think and feel.
    That being the case, how will any of us escape divine scrutiny? How will any withstand God's judgment? For the plain fact of the matter is that we are all guilty in His sight. "The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, / To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. / They have all turned aside, / They have together become corrupt; / There is none who does good, / No, not one" (Ps. 14:2,3).
    It is at this point that the Bible proposes a unique solution to the problem. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). Jesus claimed to be more than just a prophet; He is the Son of God and Savior of mankind. Coexisting eternally with the Father, He came into the world by being born of a virgin, died upon the cross as an atonement for our sin, and then rose from the dead and ascended back into heaven, where He sits at the right hand of God the Father making intercession for us. Because Christ alone is qualified to be the Savior, there is no salvation apart from Him.
    Islam, then, leaves us in a hopeless position. It acknowledges the fact that God is just and will judge the world, but leaves us with no means of atoning for our sins and reconciling us to God. It's only answer to our innate lack of righteousness is "try harder." But if we are at all honest with ourselves, and measure ourselves by God's standards, we are left with the certain prospect of damnation. This is why Christianity, and only Christianity, can meet the need of mankind. Islam is a non-solution to the problem.

7 comments:

  1. But what makes Christianity unique and distinctive is its belief in a Savior – a divine-human being who came into the world and died on a cross to save us from our sins. This notion Islam utterly rejects.

    Well, to be fair, so does Judaism.
    That's why they call themselves Jews and not Christians.

    The bible is the claim; it's not the evidence.
    Quoting it is not an effective argument.
    Same goes for the koran.
    Imagine what a huge waste of everybody's time that would be?
    An endless stream of koran and bible quotes bouncing off each other.
    Ew.

    For a Christian the idea of a Savior is crucial.

    Sure it is. For >>>>>>Christians<<<<<<<<<.
    Some other religion will have some other schick, maybe even a different savior.
    (shrug)
    The whole son-of-god sacrifice, rise again thing is not even a unique story exclusive only to your religion. It's a common motif.

    Islam, then, leaves us in a hopeless position. It acknowledges the...

    No doubt you have exposed the obvious flaws in Islam. Now all you have to do is tell them and they will convert to your religon.
    Or not.

    (....awkward silence...)

    Bob? You really should try and walk a mile in the other guy's shoes. See things from their angle. Read your own argument again but this time with the eyes of a Muslim who just "knows" that their religion is right just like you "know" your religion is right.
    Can you do it?

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  2. I'm afraid you're missing the point here. You have to think in terms of concepts and ideas. One obvious difference between Islam and Christianity has to do with the need for a Savior. And this in turn leads us back to the problem of human evil, and how to overcome it. Christ and Mohammed differed sharply over this issue. What does Cedric think about it?

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  3. I'm afraid you're missing the point here.

    I'm afraid that you are blanking me again and just ignoring what I wrote. I don't do that to you. It would be nice if you gave me the same courtesy.

    One obvious difference between Islam and Christianity has to do with the need for a Savior.

    Sure but the bible is the claim; not the evidence.
    The whole savior thing is looking at it from the Christian angle.
    You yourself said..."For a Christian the idea of a Savior is crucial."
    Sure it is. For the Christian. Not anybody else.
    Harping on about it doesn't make it any more important.
    Those Muslims?
    They are not exactly slapping themselves on the forehead and saying "Gosh, a savior! I mean WOW. The savior thing. Yeah. Human evil yadda, yadda, yadda."
    Nope. Not happening.
    Listen carefully.
    Hear that?
    That's the sound of millions of Muslims not converting to your brand name.
    Such an argument might really convince you but you are ALREADY convinced and have been since early childhood.

    And this in turn leads us back to the problem of human evil, and how to overcome it.

    Same problem.

    Christ and Mohammed differed sharply over this issue. What does Cedric think about it?

    Batman wears a cape. Spiderman does not.
    (shrug)
    You have not grasped the basic flaw in your methodology.
    You keep talking like this forever and get absolutely nowhere.

    It's all about Hank.

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  4. I did read the summary about Hank on your link, but I think it sidesteps the issue. Is evil real? Is there final justice?
    My dog, I might add (he's a black lab retriever) thinks the whole issue is nonsense. He sees the prey; he pounces. End of story. He doesn't lose any sleep over good and evil, human rights or war crimes, or universal justice and redemption. He just lives life as it come to him.
    But I'm different. I have the misfortune of being a human being -- 'homo sapiens," I believe they call us, and so I think -- the "sapiens" part. And I wonder about such things. Am I being delusional? Do I need therapy to overcome this neurosis of mine? Or is there really something to all of those religious and philosophical systems that have wrestled with the issue? Help me out here!

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  5. Is evil real? Is there final justice?Am I being delusional? Do I need therapy to overcome this neurosis of mine? Or is there really something to all of those religious and philosophical systems that have wrestled with the issue? Help me out here

    Bob, if you don`t want to talk any more then you don`t have to.
    I can`t force you to. I can only appeal to your better nature. This tactic of Gish Galloping using questions is getting old. Please stop. It`s not nice.
    You are blanking me again and just ignoring what I wrote. I don't do that to you. It would be nice if you gave me the same courtesy.

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  6. I trying to get you to think, but I gather that the Socratic method doesn't work well with you.

    P.S. Three of your comments wound up in spam folder -- sorry about that!

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  7. I trying to get you to think, but I gather that the Socratic method doesn't work well with you.

    Maybe.
    However, it comes across as a Gish Gallop and a cheap way of you to ignore me. It happens all the time.
    I'm asking you to stop doing it.

    Three of your comments wound up in spam folder -- sorry about that!

    With certain others, I'd be worried that you stooped to censoring comments. You, however, have earned some leeway in that regard.
    Thanks.

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